se-r Digest, Vol 24, Issue 10

James McColl james.mccoll at gmail.com
Thu Jan 26 22:11:35 EST 2017 

Holy smokes, there's a blast from the past, seeing that name pop up in my
inbox!

It's like 1998 again!

James

On Jan 26, 2017 19:52, "Ian Lyn" <ianshannon97 at msn.com> wrote:

> Glad to see the list still active. I will get back in this game somehow....
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>    1. Re: 14" tires (Kieran Lavin)
>    2. Re: 14" tires (Brent Meints)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:28:31 +0000
> From: Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com>
> To: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>
> Cc: "se-r at se-r-list.org" <se-r at se-r-list.org>
> Subject: Re: 14" tires
> Message-ID:
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> You're right,  I got impatient with all the emails and stopped reading
>
> kieran
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:03:30 PM
> To: Kieran Lavin
> Cc: se-r at se-r-list.org
> Subject: Re: 14" tires
>
> No, you weren't paying enough attention - I already got tires! :) Good
> enough was good enough (I'd rather spend money on the 911 if I have the
> choice), and I stuck with the OE size.
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com<
> mailto:kieran at kieranlavin.com>> wrote:
>
> You're more indecisive than my ex wife.   Just get 205/50/15s.... For the
> 97th time
>
> kieran
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>>
> on behalf of David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com<mailto:d.pertuz at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:17:44 PM
>
> To: se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org <se-r at se-r-list.org>>
> Subject: Re: 14" tires
>
> Update:
>
> I could get probably some B14 wheels from Josh Palmer, but not for a few
> months, most likely. if I got new snows I could wait, but the current and
> likely future lack of snow made me reluctant to drop more money on new
> snows this winter, so new 3-season tires now became the priority. Direzzas
> would be fun, but at $125 each from the Tire Rack I don't want to spend as
> much money on new shoes for the SE-R as I did for new Conti DWSes for the
> 911, so I went with good enough and got some General Altimax RT43s
> installed this week. BFGs would have been perfect, but they're just not
> available in our sizes any more.
>
> On another note, here is a clean-looking low-mileage NX in Washington
> state: http://bellingham.craigslist.org/cto/5936077709.html
>
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com<
> mailto:kieran at kieranlavin.com>> wrote:
>
> 205/50/15
>
>
>
>
> kieran
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>>
> on behalf of David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com<mailto:d.pertuz at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:51 AM
> To: se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org <se-r at se-r-list.org>>
> Subject: Re: 14" tires
>
> LOL.
>
> I checked Amazon...lots of random Chinese tires, and a set of South
> African Dunlops (?!)
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com<
> mailto:kieran at kieranlavin.com>> wrote:
>
> Now Mike's a terrorist with all his guns and sh*t
>
>
>
>
> kieran
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>>
> on behalf of Frey, Richard K <rfrey at iupui.edu<mailto:rfrey at iupui.edu>>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:09 AM
> To: se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org <se-r at se-r-list.org>>
> Subject: RE: 14" tires
>
>
> It is a long time.  Does the previous post reflect an old guy that is
> bitchin? about the young dude on his phone? Talk about the circle of life.
> 20 years ago it was some old guy complaining about the hooligan that was
> ?winding it out in second gear?  in the next lane in some Nissan.  If fact,
> you were just going 2nd to 4th and wanted some extra rpm due to your 3 gear
> pop out.  :)
>
>
>
> Seriously, Thanks for this listserv as it has taught me so much.  My
> knowledge about turbos went from infancy to usable due to the time that
> Mike Kojima and others invested in teaching us lurkers.  Many thanks.  I
> also learned a bunch about suspensions here.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: se-r [mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r-bounces@
> se-r-list.org
> <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org%3Cmailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>>] On
> Behalf Of David Pertuz
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:42 PM
> To: Jaret Rapp
> Cc: se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org <se-r at se-r-list.org>>
> Subject: Re: 14" tires
>
>
>
> Indeed! I am sort of amazed that I have had my car for almost 24 years now.
>
> I was nearly rear-ended at a stop sign the last time I drove my SE-R (by,
> as expected, a young dude who wasn't paying attention because he was gazing
> into his phone or whatever). If that had happened it would have obviously
> totalled the car and, I would have been very sad for it, but would have
> eventually gotten over it. Then I would have been able to immediately start
> seriously shopping for a non-boring replacement for my boring appliance
> car. but I just can't bear to get rid of the SE-R!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Jaret Rapp via se-r <se-r at se-r-list.org
> <mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org>> wrote:
>
> btw, not for nothing, do you all realize this list is still alive after 26
> years!!!  And some of us still have their original SE-R!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com<mailto:d.pertuz at gmail.com>>
> To: Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com<mailto:c
> scarpulla at gmail.com>>
> Cc: se-r <se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org>>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 5:29 pm
> Subject: Re: 14" tires
>
> Yeah, I just saw those again today. A bit mixed on whether I want to put
> tires like that on. Even when it comes to high-performance tires, which is
> what I'd prefer, I'd rather have all-seasons for the rain traction and
> grip. And if it is cold but not yet snowy, I'd rather leave normal tires
> on, but summer tires are terrible in cold weather. I still remember sliding
> through a red light in Detroit at 15mph because I couldn't stop due to
> being on a thin coat of snow on summer tires on the car I was driving.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <
> cscarpulla at gmail.com<mailto:cscarpulla at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> David,
>
>
>
> Tire Rack has these little beauties.
>
>
>
> DIREZZA ZII STAR SPEC<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=
> Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+ZII+Star+Spec&partnum=86HR4Z2SS&
> vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes>
>
> Extreme Performance Summer
>
> Size: 185/60R14 82H
>
>
>
> And as far as 195 or 205/50-15's go, I think we can thank the early Miata
> crowd for keeping the manufacturers pumping out a good supply of them.
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:32:47 -0500
> From: Brent Meints <brent.meints at gmail.com>
> To: Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com>
> Cc: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>,  "se-r at se-r-list.org"
>         <se-r at se-r-list.org>
> Subject: Re: 14" tires
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> We run Continental DW or DWS on everything as well.  Such a great tire.
>
> Brent
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <
> cscarpulla at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Continental is coming out with a new version of their excellent DW tires
> > (which I run on basically everything), and lucky for us, they're going to
> > make it in a 205-50/15.
> >
> > Here's a thread talking about it on miata.net
> > https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=630864
> >
> >
> > And a snippet of that thread from Andy Hollis, who's been GRM go-to guy
> > for tire testing.
> >
> > ************************
> > Quote:
> > Originally Posted by *Gene Stanley* [image: View Post]
> > <https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?p=8344715#post8344715>
> > In the current issue of Grassroots Motorsports (Feb 2017) in the new
> > product news section the Extreme Contact Sport was featured. The article
> > did mention that the sidewall stiffness is increased by 20%. The tire was
> > "experienced" by GRM at a private track in Palm Springs, CA. The article
> > continued to relate that 72 sizes would be released all at once this
> spring
> > and specifically mentioned 205/50R15 and 205/45R16 sizes for Miata and
> > Honda. Pricing to be similar to the outgoing DW.
> > That was me.
> >
> > And I just finished an autocross and skid pad test of these tires over
> the
> > weekend against the Michelin PSS on my ND. Waiting for my local track to
> > fully dry out from recent rains to do high speed track testing.
> >
> > These will be VERY relevant tires for NA/NB Miata owners as a one-tire,
> > triple-duty solution (street, track, autocross) in all conditions (wet,
> > dry, cold, hot) above about 35 degrees or so.
> >
> > In short, anywhere you'd have considered a PSS you should now consider
> the
> > Conti Sport. And since the Sport comes in 23" tall sizes (205/50-15 &
> > 205/45-16) while the PSS does not, it's a big win for NA/NB Miata owners.
> > ************************
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:17 PM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Update:
> >>
> >> I could get probably some B14 wheels from Josh Palmer, but not for a few
> >> months, most likely. if I got new snows I could wait, but the current
> and
> >> likely future lack of snow made me reluctant to drop more money on new
> >> snows this winter, so new 3-season tires now became the priority.
> Direzzas
> >> would be fun, but at $125 each from the Tire Rack I don't want to spend
> as
> >> much money on new shoes for the SE-R as I did for new Conti DWSes for
> the
> >> 911, so I went with good enough and got some General Altimax RT43s
> >> installed this week. BFGs would have been perfect, but they're just not
> >> available in our sizes any more.
> >>
> >> On another note, here is a clean-looking low-mileage NX in Washington
> >> state: http://bellingham.craigslist.org/cto/5936077709.html
> >>
> >> David
> >> Chicago
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> 205/50/15
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> kieran
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org> on behalf of David Pertuz <
> >>> d.pertuz at gmail.com>
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:51 AM
> >>> *To:* se-r at se-r-list.org
> >>> *Subject:* Re: 14" tires
> >>>
> >>> LOL.
> >>>
> >>> I checked Amazon...lots of random Chinese tires, and a set of South
> >>> African Dunlops (?!)
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Now Mike's a terrorist with all his guns and sh*t
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> kieran
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> *From:* se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org> on behalf of Frey, Richard
> K
> >>>> <rfrey at iupui.edu>
> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:09 AM
> >>>> *To:* se-r at se-r-list.org
> >>>> *Subject:* RE: 14" tires
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It is a long time.  Does the previous post reflect an old guy that is
> >>>> bitchin? about the young dude on his phone? Talk about the circle of
> life.
> >>>> 20 years ago it was some old guy complaining about the hooligan that
> was
> >>>> ?winding it out in second gear?  in the next lane in some Nissan.  If
> fact,
> >>>> you were just going 2nd to 4th and wanted some extra rpm due to your 3
> >>>> gear pop out.  J
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Seriously, Thanks for this listserv as it has taught me so much.  My
> >>>> knowledge about turbos went from infancy to usable due to the time
> that
> >>>> Mike Kojima and others invested in teaching us lurkers.  Many
> thanks.  I
> >>>> also learned a bunch about suspensions here.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* se-r [mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org
> <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>] *On Behalf Of *David
> >>>> Pertuz
> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:42 PM
> >>>> *To:* Jaret Rapp
> >>>> *Cc:* se-r at se-r-list.org
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: 14" tires
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Indeed! I am sort of amazed that I have had my car for almost 24 years
> >>>> now.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was nearly rear-ended at a stop sign the last time I drove my SE-R
> >>>> (by, as expected, a young dude who wasn't paying attention because he
> was
> >>>> gazing into his phone or whatever). If that had happened it would have
> >>>> obviously totalled the car and, I would have been very sad for it, but
> >>>> would have eventually gotten over it. Then I would have been able to
> >>>> immediately start seriously shopping for a non-boring replacement for
> my
> >>>> boring appliance car. but I just can't bear to get rid of the SE-R!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Jaret Rapp via se-r <
> >>>> se-r at se-r-list.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> btw, not for nothing, do you all realize this list is still alive
> after
> >>>> 26 years!!!  And some of us still have their original SE-R!!!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com>
> >>>> Cc: se-r <se-r at se-r-list.org>
> >>>> Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 5:29 pm
> >>>> Subject: Re: 14" tires
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, I just saw those again today. A bit mixed on whether I want to
> >>>> put tires like that on. Even when it comes to high-performance tires,
> which
> >>>> is what I'd prefer, I'd rather have all-seasons for the rain traction
> and
> >>>> grip. And if it is cold but not yet snowy, I'd rather leave normal
> tires
> >>>> on, but summer tires are terrible in cold weather. I still remember
> sliding
> >>>> through a red light in Detroit at 15mph because I couldn't stop due to
> >>>> being on a thin coat of snow on summer tires on the car I was driving.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <
> >>>> cscarpulla at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> David,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tire Rack has these little beauties.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> DIREZZA ZII STAR SPEC
> >>>> <http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=
> Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+ZII+Star+Spec&partnum=86HR4Z2SS&
> vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes>
> >>>>
> >>>> Extreme Performance Summer
> >>>>
> >>>> Size: 185/60R14 82H
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And as far as 195 or 205/50-15's go, I think we can thank the early
> >>>> Miata crowd for keeping the manufacturers pumping out a good supply
> of them.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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