se-r Digest, Vol 24, Issue 10
Ian Lyn
ianshannon97 at msn.com
Thu Jan 26 20:52:40 EST 2017
Glad to see the list still active. I will get back in this game somehow....
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 14" tires (Kieran Lavin)
2. Re: 14" tires (Brent Meints)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:28:31 +0000
From: Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com>
To: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>
Cc: "se-r at se-r-list.org" <se-r at se-r-list.org>
Subject: Re: 14" tires
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You're right, I got impatient with all the emails and stopped reading
kieran
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From: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:03:30 PM
To: Kieran Lavin
Cc: se-r at se-r-list.org
Subject: Re: 14" tires
No, you weren't paying enough attention - I already got tires! :) Good enough was good enough (I'd rather spend money on the 911 if I have the choice), and I stuck with the OE size.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com<mailto:kieran at kieranlavin.com>> wrote:
You're more indecisive than my ex wife. Just get 205/50/15s.... For the 97th time
kieran
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From: se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>> on behalf of David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com<mailto:d.pertuz at gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:17:44 PM
To: se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org>
Subject: Re: 14" tires
Update:
I could get probably some B14 wheels from Josh Palmer, but not for a few months, most likely. if I got new snows I could wait, but the current and likely future lack of snow made me reluctant to drop more money on new snows this winter, so new 3-season tires now became the priority. Direzzas would be fun, but at $125 each from the Tire Rack I don't want to spend as much money on new shoes for the SE-R as I did for new Conti DWSes for the 911, so I went with good enough and got some General Altimax RT43s installed this week. BFGs would have been perfect, but they're just not available in our sizes any more.
On another note, here is a clean-looking low-mileage NX in Washington state: http://bellingham.craigslist.org/cto/5936077709.html
David
Chicago
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com<mailto:kieran at kieranlavin.com>> wrote:
205/50/15
kieran
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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: 14" tires
LOL.
I checked Amazon...lots of random Chinese tires, and a set of South African Dunlops (?!)
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com<mailto:kieran at kieranlavin.com>> wrote:
Now Mike's a terrorist with all his guns and sh*t
kieran
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From: se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>> on behalf of Frey, Richard K <rfrey at iupui.edu<mailto:rfrey at iupui.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:09 AM
To: se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org>
Subject: RE: 14" tires
It is a long time. Does the previous post reflect an old guy that is bitchin? about the young dude on his phone? Talk about the circle of life. 20 years ago it was some old guy complaining about the hooligan that was ?winding it out in second gear? in the next lane in some Nissan. If fact, you were just going 2nd to 4th and wanted some extra rpm due to your 3 gear pop out. :)
Seriously, Thanks for this listserv as it has taught me so much. My knowledge about turbos went from infancy to usable due to the time that Mike Kojima and others invested in teaching us lurkers. Many thanks. I also learned a bunch about suspensions here.
From: se-r [mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org>] On Behalf Of David Pertuz
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Jaret Rapp
Cc: se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org>
Subject: Re: 14" tires
Indeed! I am sort of amazed that I have had my car for almost 24 years now.
I was nearly rear-ended at a stop sign the last time I drove my SE-R (by, as expected, a young dude who wasn't paying attention because he was gazing into his phone or whatever). If that had happened it would have obviously totalled the car and, I would have been very sad for it, but would have eventually gotten over it. Then I would have been able to immediately start seriously shopping for a non-boring replacement for my boring appliance car. but I just can't bear to get rid of the SE-R!
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Jaret Rapp via se-r <se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org>> wrote:
btw, not for nothing, do you all realize this list is still alive after 26 years!!! And some of us still have their original SE-R!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com<mailto:d.pertuz at gmail.com>>
To: Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com<mailto:cscarpulla at gmail.com>>
Cc: se-r <se-r at se-r-list.org<mailto:se-r at se-r-list.org>>
Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: 14" tires
Yeah, I just saw those again today. A bit mixed on whether I want to put tires like that on. Even when it comes to high-performance tires, which is what I'd prefer, I'd rather have all-seasons for the rain traction and grip. And if it is cold but not yet snowy, I'd rather leave normal tires on, but summer tires are terrible in cold weather. I still remember sliding through a red light in Detroit at 15mph because I couldn't stop due to being on a thin coat of snow on summer tires on the car I was driving.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com<mailto:cscarpulla at gmail.com>> wrote:
David,
Tire Rack has these little beauties.
DIREZZA ZII STAR SPEC<http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+ZII+Star+Spec&partnum=86HR4Z2SS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes>
Extreme Performance Summer
Size: 185/60R14 82H
And as far as 195 or 205/50-15's go, I think we can thank the early Miata crowd for keeping the manufacturers pumping out a good supply of them.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:32:47 -0500
From: Brent Meints <brent.meints at gmail.com>
To: Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com>
Cc: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>, "se-r at se-r-list.org"
<se-r at se-r-list.org>
Subject: Re: 14" tires
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We run Continental DW or DWS on everything as well. Such a great tire.
Brent
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com
> wrote:
> Continental is coming out with a new version of their excellent DW tires
> (which I run on basically everything), and lucky for us, they're going to
> make it in a 205-50/15.
>
> Here's a thread talking about it on miata.net
> https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=630864
>
>
> And a snippet of that thread from Andy Hollis, who's been GRM go-to guy
> for tire testing.
>
> ************************
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by *Gene Stanley* [image: View Post]
> <https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?p=8344715#post8344715>
> In the current issue of Grassroots Motorsports (Feb 2017) in the new
> product news section the Extreme Contact Sport was featured. The article
> did mention that the sidewall stiffness is increased by 20%. The tire was
> "experienced" by GRM at a private track in Palm Springs, CA. The article
> continued to relate that 72 sizes would be released all at once this spring
> and specifically mentioned 205/50R15 and 205/45R16 sizes for Miata and
> Honda. Pricing to be similar to the outgoing DW.
> That was me.
>
> And I just finished an autocross and skid pad test of these tires over the
> weekend against the Michelin PSS on my ND. Waiting for my local track to
> fully dry out from recent rains to do high speed track testing.
>
> These will be VERY relevant tires for NA/NB Miata owners as a one-tire,
> triple-duty solution (street, track, autocross) in all conditions (wet,
> dry, cold, hot) above about 35 degrees or so.
>
> In short, anywhere you'd have considered a PSS you should now consider the
> Conti Sport. And since the Sport comes in 23" tall sizes (205/50-15 &
> 205/45-16) while the PSS does not, it's a big win for NA/NB Miata owners.
> ************************
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:17 PM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Update:
>>
>> I could get probably some B14 wheels from Josh Palmer, but not for a few
>> months, most likely. if I got new snows I could wait, but the current and
>> likely future lack of snow made me reluctant to drop more money on new
>> snows this winter, so new 3-season tires now became the priority. Direzzas
>> would be fun, but at $125 each from the Tire Rack I don't want to spend as
>> much money on new shoes for the SE-R as I did for new Conti DWSes for the
>> 911, so I went with good enough and got some General Altimax RT43s
>> installed this week. BFGs would have been perfect, but they're just not
>> available in our sizes any more.
>>
>> On another note, here is a clean-looking low-mileage NX in Washington
>> state: http://bellingham.craigslist.org/cto/5936077709.html
>>
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 205/50/15
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> kieran
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org> on behalf of David Pertuz <
>>> d.pertuz at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:51 AM
>>> *To:* se-r at se-r-list.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: 14" tires
>>>
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> I checked Amazon...lots of random Chinese tires, and a set of South
>>> African Dunlops (?!)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Kieran Lavin <kieran at kieranlavin.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now Mike's a terrorist with all his guns and sh*t
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> kieran
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* se-r <se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org> on behalf of Frey, Richard K
>>>> <rfrey at iupui.edu>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:09 AM
>>>> *To:* se-r at se-r-list.org
>>>> *Subject:* RE: 14" tires
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is a long time. Does the previous post reflect an old guy that is
>>>> bitchin? about the young dude on his phone? Talk about the circle of life.
>>>> 20 years ago it was some old guy complaining about the hooligan that was
>>>> ?winding it out in second gear? in the next lane in some Nissan. If fact,
>>>> you were just going 2nd to 4th and wanted some extra rpm due to your 3
>>>> gear pop out. J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, Thanks for this listserv as it has taught me so much. My
>>>> knowledge about turbos went from infancy to usable due to the time that
>>>> Mike Kojima and others invested in teaching us lurkers. Many thanks. I
>>>> also learned a bunch about suspensions here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* se-r [mailto:se-r-bounces at se-r-list.org] *On Behalf Of *David
>>>> Pertuz
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:42 PM
>>>> *To:* Jaret Rapp
>>>> *Cc:* se-r at se-r-list.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: 14" tires
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed! I am sort of amazed that I have had my car for almost 24 years
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> I was nearly rear-ended at a stop sign the last time I drove my SE-R
>>>> (by, as expected, a young dude who wasn't paying attention because he was
>>>> gazing into his phone or whatever). If that had happened it would have
>>>> obviously totalled the car and, I would have been very sad for it, but
>>>> would have eventually gotten over it. Then I would have been able to
>>>> immediately start seriously shopping for a non-boring replacement for my
>>>> boring appliance car. but I just can't bear to get rid of the SE-R!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Jaret Rapp via se-r <
>>>> se-r at se-r-list.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> btw, not for nothing, do you all realize this list is still alive after
>>>> 26 years!!! And some of us still have their original SE-R!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Christopher Scarpulla <cscarpulla at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: se-r <se-r at se-r-list.org>
>>>> Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 5:29 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: 14" tires
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I just saw those again today. A bit mixed on whether I want to
>>>> put tires like that on. Even when it comes to high-performance tires, which
>>>> is what I'd prefer, I'd rather have all-seasons for the rain traction and
>>>> grip. And if it is cold but not yet snowy, I'd rather leave normal tires
>>>> on, but summer tires are terrible in cold weather. I still remember sliding
>>>> through a red light in Detroit at 15mph because I couldn't stop due to
>>>> being on a thin coat of snow on summer tires on the car I was driving.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <
>>>> cscarpulla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tire Rack has these little beauties.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DIREZZA ZII STAR SPEC
>>>> <http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+ZII+Star+Spec&partnum=86HR4Z2SS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes>
>>>>
>>>> Extreme Performance Summer
>>>>
>>>> Size: 185/60R14 82H
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And as far as 195 or 205/50-15's go, I think we can thank the early
>>>> Miata crowd for keeping the manufacturers pumping out a good supply of them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Brent Meints
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