I don't know what everyone is talkinga bout, I've had mines for 15k or so right now, and they are amazing. for $240 with overnight shipping my 205-55-16's are the best tires in the price range, and even in higher ranges as well. They are amazing in the rain, and decent at the track except when really warm. My auto B15 really likes it, even with the old N2O setup, JCC