So it's not on how the engine is being mounted? it's on the pipes? In a message dated 4/16/04 11:24:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, spdracer at mail.utexas.edu writes: > The others are 4-door, family hauling sedans. Granted, sporty sedans, > but still not sports cars. I'm sure its all in the exhaust system tuning. > Khiem