> I dunno about all that. Guys are now running 11's in the 1/4 with stock > turbo, FMIC, and entirely sealed engine 11s in a Evo, which is running 13s at stock boost, and barely high 12s tuned by Vishnu, which is already running 19 psi stock? Have a link? I gotta see who, what, where and why. Terry Heick East Coast Editor www.freshalloy.com