The people that run nissanforums.com have created a place where there can still be an exchange by this group, it is the SERCA fourm that was just done last week. George Roffe and I are there regularly. It would be nice to see the rest of you there as well! Here is the link: http://www.nissanforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=127 See you there hopefuly. Mike K.