I have a long Craftsman 1/2" breaker bar... the longest one they had at the time. I don't use an extension, I just stand on the end and hop a couple times. I did almost a dozen CV joints that way before I got my impact wrench. Jon Davis > "Trying to get the axle off 91 SE-R wreck - Can this be removed with > anything less than an impact wrench?" - John A. Heer