Amen... after 75k miles of Tokicos and ES bushings my B13 is feeling kinda sloppy - with stock springs. It still rotates nicely though, just pull your foot out of the throttle and get a nice wagging tail. Jon Davis > because of the flexible coachwork. What happens when the coachwork flexes > is the coachwork becomes a spring in effect and a not very predictable one > at that. > George Roffe