Don't know for sure yet, but to get the Matrix with the 6 speed and 180 hp's will run about $30K cdn and my Spec V was $26K with PDI. The Spec V is still the best bang for the buck, too bad all those US dealers are over charging for it. Edwen >From: Andy Makim <makima@macewan.ca> >>like a 4 door hatch Like the Protege 5.