engine support with the crossmember removed

Christopher Scarpulla cscarpulla at gmail.com
Wed May 22 15:32:07 CDT 2013


Use the side engine mount locations. Run a chain from the passenger side
mount to the tranny mount, and pick it up in the middle.

C


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Brent Meints <brent.meints at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just be very careful, many lower radiator supports suffer from cancer and
> will collapse when that much weight is on them.  Make sure it is sound
> before you throw a jack under it.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, that's kind of obvious now that you mention it. When I did the job on
>> my G20, I had to jack it up in two stages because my floor jack wouldn't
>> lift the car high enough, nor would my jack stand keep it high enough. So
>> there was much insertion and removal of wood blocks, etc. But lifting the
>> car by the rad support seems pretty easy.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <
>> cscarpulla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "getting the car up high enough to slide the engine out the bottom was
>>> fussy."
>>>
>>> Lower the engine & transmission onto cardboard, or something similarly
>>> slippery, lift the front of the car up using the engine hoist, and slide
>>> that sucker on out.
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:32 PM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lam,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks - I thought of that a bit after I sent the message. I recall
>>>> seeing such a support on a car somewhere just last week, and this brought
>>>> it back to mind. I also realized that I could use the JWT strut tower brace
>>>> and a short ratcheting tie-down strap or something like that to support the
>>>> engine from above.
>>>>
>>>> It's been yeeeears since I did an engine swap - putting a replacement
>>>> engine in my G20 ca. 2005 - but I do recall that while there are many steps
>>>> involved in disconnecting everything, it's basically simple, though getting
>>>> the car up high enough to slide the engine out the bottom was fussy. Taking
>>>> the engine out would let me clean up the engine bay nicely, too.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> Chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM, LAM-PARK <LAM-PARK at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have done the rod bearings before in the vehicle but it was up on a
>>>>> lift and it sucked - even with the lift I would rather just pull the engine
>>>>> and trans.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do choose to do it in the car supporting the engine/trans is
>>>>> not necessary but would be recommended to prevent damage to the passenger
>>>>> engine mount as well as brittle coolant hoses.  You can go to most auto
>>>>> part stores and rent an engine support bracket that hold the engine up via
>>>>> both of the fenders.  Harbor Freight also sells them pretty cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am the original owner of my 93 B13. We will be hitting the 20 year
>>>>> mark this August.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck on your project.
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2013, at 9:28 AM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hello OGs,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm finally moving along with the task list on my SE-R and had a
>>>>> question. Number one on the list is replacing the rod bearings. I've
>>>>> removed the lower oil pan and loosened the upper pan bolts and crossmember
>>>>> bolts (unfortunately - d'oh! - one crossmember bolt snapped off, so I will
>>>>> have to drill it out.) and this weekend I will remove the crossmember and
>>>>> remove the upper oil pan and the baffling so that I can get to the bearing
>>>>> caps.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I've assumed that it is really best to support the driveline when
>>>>> the crossmember is out rather than let it hang there on the front and
>>>>> transmission mounts. But is it necessary? I have to rig up a stable support
>>>>> under the trans housing and all of this is rather in the way when I'm under
>>>>> the car, so there is a certain upside to not doing it. On the other hand, I
>>>>> don't want to overstress the mounts, which are good.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On a related question, I've thought about pulling the whole
>>>>> engine/trans unit, which would make it a lot kinder to do the bearings
>>>>> (standing up rather than lying on my back) and would also let me do other
>>>>> stuff like reseal the front cover (if needed, but might as well if it's
>>>>> out) and replace any hard-to-get-at rubber that may be over-aged on the
>>>>> back side of the motor. I haven't done this since it is a lot more work and
>>>>> I would have to buy/beg/borrow/steal a hoist and engine stand, neither of
>>>>> which I have. That is not all bad - I may have to eventually pull the
>>>>> engine on my Fiat, too - but it's additional expense and more stuff, taking
>>>>> up more space. But if any of you did an engine-in bearing job and wished
>>>>> you'd done it the other way, I'd like to hear it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I drove my SE-R home from the dealer on May 18th, 1993, so its 20th
>>>>> birthday passed last weekend. I can't believe I've had that car for 20
>>>>> years! I wanted to have it running again by then, and while that didn't
>>>>> happen mid-summer ought to.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > David
>>>>> > Chicago
>>>>> >
>>>>> > P.S. Any of you going to the convention? Greg brought it to my mind
>>>>> yesterday.
>>>>> >
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