engine support with the crossmember removed

[Brent Meints]

Just be very careful, many lower radiator supports suffer from cancer and
will collapse when that much weight is on them.  Make sure it is sound
before you throw a jack under it.

Brent


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, that's kind of obvious now that you mention it. When I did the job on
> my G20, I had to jack it up in two stages because my floor jack wouldn't
> lift the car high enough, nor would my jack stand keep it high enough. So
> there was much insertion and removal of wood blocks, etc. But lifting the
> car by the rad support seems pretty easy.
>
> David
>
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Christopher Scarpulla <
> cscarpulla at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "getting the car up high enough to slide the engine out the bottom was
>> fussy."
>>
>> Lower the engine & transmission onto cardboard, or something similarly
>> slippery, lift the front of the car up using the engine hoist, and slide
>> that sucker on out.
>>
>> C
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:32 PM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Lam,
>>>
>>> Thanks - I thought of that a bit after I sent the message. I recall
>>> seeing such a support on a car somewhere just last week, and this brought
>>> it back to mind. I also realized that I could use the JWT strut tower brace
>>> and a short ratcheting tie-down strap or something like that to support the
>>> engine from above.
>>>
>>> It's been yeeeears since I did an engine swap - putting a replacement
>>> engine in my G20 ca. 2005 - but I do recall that while there are many steps
>>> involved in disconnecting everything, it's basically simple, though getting
>>> the car up high enough to slide the engine out the bottom was fussy. Taking
>>> the engine out would let me clean up the engine bay nicely, too.
>>>
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM, LAM-PARK <LAM-PARK at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have done the rod bearings before in the vehicle but it was up on a
>>>> lift and it sucked - even with the lift I would rather just pull the engine
>>>> and trans.
>>>>
>>>> If you do choose to do it in the car supporting the engine/trans is not
>>>> necessary but would be recommended to prevent damage to the passenger
>>>> engine mount as well as brittle coolant hoses.  You can go to most auto
>>>> part stores and rent an engine support bracket that hold the engine up via
>>>> both of the fenders.  Harbor Freight also sells them pretty cheap.
>>>>
>>>> I am the original owner of my 93 B13. We will be hitting the 20 year
>>>> mark this August.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck on your project.
>>>>
>>>> On May 22, 2013, at 9:28 AM, David Pertuz <d.pertuz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello OGs,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm finally moving along with the task list on my SE-R and had a
>>>> question. Number one on the list is replacing the rod bearings. I've
>>>> removed the lower oil pan and loosened the upper pan bolts and crossmember
>>>> bolts (unfortunately - d'oh! - one crossmember bolt snapped off, so I will
>>>> have to drill it out.) and this weekend I will remove the crossmember and
>>>> remove the upper oil pan and the baffling so that I can get to the bearing
>>>> caps.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've assumed that it is really best to support the driveline when the
>>>> crossmember is out rather than let it hang there on the front and
>>>> transmission mounts. But is it necessary? I have to rig up a stable support
>>>> under the trans housing and all of this is rather in the way when I'm under
>>>> the car, so there is a certain upside to not doing it. On the other hand, I
>>>> don't want to overstress the mounts, which are good.
>>>> >
>>>> > On a related question, I've thought about pulling the whole
>>>> engine/trans unit, which would make it a lot kinder to do the bearings
>>>> (standing up rather than lying on my back) and would also let me do other
>>>> stuff like reseal the front cover (if needed, but might as well if it's
>>>> out) and replace any hard-to-get-at rubber that may be over-aged on the
>>>> back side of the motor. I haven't done this since it is a lot more work and
>>>> I would have to buy/beg/borrow/steal a hoist and engine stand, neither of
>>>> which I have. That is not all bad - I may have to eventually pull the
>>>> engine on my Fiat, too - but it's additional expense and more stuff, taking
>>>> up more space. But if any of you did an engine-in bearing job and wished
>>>> you'd done it the other way, I'd like to hear it.
>>>> >
>>>> > I drove my SE-R home from the dealer on May 18th, 1993, so its 20th
>>>> birthday passed last weekend. I can't believe I've had that car for 20
>>>> years! I wanted to have it running again by then, and while that didn't
>>>> happen mid-summer ought to.
>>>> >
>>>> > David
>>>> > Chicago
>>>> >
>>>> > P.S. Any of you going to the convention? Greg brought it to my mind
>>>> yesterday.
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