Ghost in the machine (was Quickie TB cleaning)

[Khiem Dinh]

I haven't read all the messages... but with the cars sitting for so long,
maybe some type of leaky/stuck injector syndrome?

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Larry Martin <bizznzman at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Just to add further to the confusion....  Mine seems to take a spell
> each summer where it will start just fine when it's cold (first start of the
> day) and run fine, no problem.  But then when it is shut off for a period of
> 20-30 minutes or so (after fully warmed) it will restart with a very lumpy
> idle or not idle at all and either die instantly or when trying to drive
> away.  Press in the clutch pedal without accelerator pedal, as in stopping,
> it would die.  The fix?  Same as the earlier discussion - floor the
> accelerator and wait for it to clear its throat. This works but only if some
> time is allowed for it to "settle out" so to speak.  So, heat soak causing
> fuel problem?  Sounds again like a carbureted car in some respects.  But
> then the problem seems to go away only to return at some random time later.
> Oooooooo
> Fuel filter is always replaced far ahead of time, like once a year, just
> for grins.  Makes me wonder about the canister or other possibilities in the
> evap system.
>
> Larry Martin
>
> --- On *Wed, 3/9/11, Jeff Hager <submarinesammy at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
>
>
>  I'll jump in here.
>
> I had a similar problem years ago and I think Grover pointed me to a
> message to help me out.  I found that the car runs rich when cold started
> (duh) and I was just starting it an moving it around in the driveway.  I
> hadn't driven it any distance in 3 months and was moving it to mow or get
> other cars around in the garage.  I had the same symptoms as the initial
> post.  After moving the car 4 times and never letting it run more than 30
> seconds, it would not start.  It reminded me of a flooded carb'd car (strong
> unburnt smell at the exhaust etc.)  My solution was to change the oil and
> check the other fluids then get fresh gas and drive the crap out of it for
> 50 miles.  Also check the temperature sensor but that would typically cause
> the car to run rich after it was warm.
>
> Jeff
>
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